那个步枪还是很爽的。。。。。。。你要打头部啊。。。

对了，我今天做任务终于捡到了传说中的技能书：“中国军队训练手册”
竟然是加Sneak技能的，我泪流满面 :内牛满面: :内牛满面:

打了头部了,然后敌人冲过来,再打就没那么准了,再加上换弹,手忙脚乱

只能切换手枪了.跟CS里用狙那样,威力还很鸟...

拿AK爽的,扫死两个,一看又没弹药了,只能继续手枪

[ 本帖最后由 狂涂 于 2008-11-4 14:50 编辑 ]

源头在那个城右边的一个地铁站里，刚进去后直走的站台里能在一个尸体上拿到一个录音，让你找到钥匙拿地铁站里的一个衣服，然后送到revet city，然后进小门一直往下走，能找到一个博士……那博士让你杀5个蚁后护卫，然后回来做药让蚂蚁自相残杀……
那个钥匙在一个灭火器里，衣服在找到博士那里的前面半截火车挡着的地方右边有个门上有闪光的房间里作了这个任务能选择+1str或者+1per，还有25%火炕，很赞
蚂蚁用地雷炸。。

谢谢LS

看来要先放放

估计目前打不过,再做点任务去做

我也是8级时候才过去作的。。蚂蚁太凶猛了

我最爱做支线……主线让我找电台我死活走不过去。。。

[ 本帖最后由 zafm0861 于 2008-11-4 15:13 编辑 ]

地铁坑道里面，转啊转的就转过去了

[posted by wap]
喷了，电台在地铁里？我一直在在面逛。

不是在地铁里，而是到达银河广播总部必须要经过地铁。地面上的路基本被建筑残骸阻断。

多看看地图，很多时候都会提示你下地铁的

我用步枪+突击步枪灭了地图上所有的蚂蚁,弹尽粮决后,看到了这个贴子.......挖地雷去了T.T

啊？下地铁有啥提示

比如他要你去银河电台，但是路标却是标在某个地铁入口上的

我有个问题，Paradise Fall有没有支线任务，刚刚屠城了，Slavers都被我杀光了

发现白色还是能看到……

补充说明下科技馆保险箱
从大门口一路进去,三台悬挂式终端上解开三个质数问题,可以获得某个地铁站有武器的信息,然后在登月舱上方的控制室可以里可以操作保险箱边上的终端打开保险箱的锁,里面有不少弹药,以及天球厅武器箱的钥匙.
操版提到的书是一本加能量武器技能的,在进门大厅上面,可以关大厅保安机枪的那个控制室里,在右手墙脚桌上,一个终端旁边.
详细见上.

[ 本帖最后由 nimer 于 2008-11-4 22:30 编辑 ]

我现在主线还在MEGATON....已经14级了...弹药多到可怕...都基本接近2000发了..除了狙击的少点..150来发...钱4000多...MEGATON的房也装修了...现在遇到最强的敌人可能就是死爪了吧...3下就倒...不SNEAK狙击打头.根本无胜算......

求带特殊名字的好武器啊...我开锁 SMGUN SNEAK 都100了...找不到好武器

LS 14级竟然有3个100 = =|
我10级了还没个100的……钱也没多少……

找到一个super mutant跟班，这次的主线真有意思:鼻血猴: :鼻血猴: :鼻血猴:

有，233 :企鹅捶地: :企鹅捶地: :企鹅捶地: :企鹅捶地:

制造武器的成就是20点
收集bubblehead有两个成就共40点

list of all 20 Vault-Tec Bobbleheads 

They add to your stats and skills. Basically, the Bobbleheads of the 7
Primary Stats (Strength, Perception, etc.) give you one more point to those
stats. The Bobbleheads of the 13 Skills add 10% to each skill.

1. Energy Weapons

Zone: 1.01
Lat/Lon: -28/28
Location: Raven Rock
Specifics: Raven Rock Level 2, colonel Autumn's quarters, on table

2. Big Guns

Zone: 1.04
Lat/Lon: -17/26
Location: Fort Constantine
Specifics: CO quarters, inside open safe

3. Endurance

Zone: 1.07
Lat/Lon: -22/20
Location: Deathclaw Sanctuary
Specifics: Deathclaw Sanctuary, initial chamber, next to corpse pile

4. Explosives

Zone: 1.11
Lat/Lon: -17/18
Location: WKML Broadcast Station
Specifics: Sealed Cistern, next to ham radio

5. Speech

Zone: 2.08
Lat/Lon: -09/16
Location: Paradise Falls
Specifics: Eulogy's Pad, on table

6. Perception

Zone: 3.03
Lat/Lon: 19/27
Location: The Republic of Dave
Specifics: Museum of Dave, bookcase

7. Agility

Zone: 3.06
Lat/Lon: 07/21
Location: Greener Pastures Disposal Site
Specifics: Office, on table

8. Repair

Zone: 5.07
Lat/Lon: -11/06
Location: Arefu
Specifics: Evan King's House, on table

9. Science

Zone: 5.12
Lat/Lon: -09/01
Location: Vault 106
Specifics: Vault 106 living quarters, medical bay eastern wall, on shelves

10. Charisma

Zone: 6.06
Lat/Lon: 18/06
Location: Vault 108
Specifics: Vault 108 Cloning Lab, on table

11. Lockpick

Zone: 6.07
Lat/Lon: 05/03
Location: Bethesda Ruins
Specifics: Bethesda Offices East, top floor, on desk in central room

12. Small Guns

Zone: 6.11
Lat/Lon: 18/-03
Location: National Guard Depot
Specifics: National Guard Armory, shelf in equipment storage

13. Sneak

Zone: 7.01
Lat/Lon: -28/-04
Location: Yoo Guai Tunnel
Specifics: Yoo Guai Den, on metal crate, eastern area of central cavern.

14. Barter

Zone: 7.04
Lat/Lon: -18/-07
Location: Evergreen Mills
Specifics: Bazaar, Jack's northeast alcove; top right shelf behind the Work
Bench.

15. Melee Weapons

Zone: 7.11
Lat/Lon: -26/-18
Location: Dunwich Building
Specifics: Virulent Underchambers, mall maintenance room

16. Unarmed

Zone: 7.C
Lat/Lon: -26/-07
Location: Rockopolis
Specifics: Rockopolis, next to Argyle's body

17. Medicine

Zone: 8.01
Lat/Lon: -04/-04
Location: Vault 101
Specifics: Vault 101, Dad's clinic table

18. Strength

Zone: 8.03
Lat/Lon: -01/-06
Location: Megaton
Specifics: Lucas Simms' house, sheriff's bedroom on table

19. Intelligence

Zone: 9.15
Lat/Lon: 18/-17
Location: Rivet City
Specifics: Science Lab, on table

20. Luck

Zone: 16.03
Lat/Lon: N/A
Location: Arlington House
Specifics: Arlington house, cellar shelves





list of all 23 schematics to create the seven custom weapons.
Basically, the more components you have when making a weapon, the stronger
they'll become.

1. #1 Rock-It Launcher

Zone: 0.00
Lat/Lon: N/A
Location: Wasteland Mini-Encounter: Merchant Trader Caravan
Specifics: Sold by Crazy Wolfgang

2. #1 Nuka Grenade

Zone: 0.00
Lat/Lon: N/A
Location: Wasteland Mini-Encounter: Merchant Trader Caravan
Specifics: Sold by Doc Hoff

3. #1 Shishkebab

Zone: 0.00
Lat/Lon: N/A
Location: Wasteland Mini-Encounter: Merchant Trader Caravan
Specifics: Sold by Lucky Harith

4. #1 Deathclaw Gauntlet

Zone: 0.13
Lat/Lon: N/A
Location: Mini-Encounter: Wounded Deathclaw
Specifics: On wounded Wastelander

5. #1 Dart Gun

Zone: 1.02
Lat/Lon: -27/25
Location: MDPL-05 Power Station
Specifics: On ground, near skeleton

6. #2 Shishkebab

Zone: 1.B
Lat/Lon: -14/25
Location: Brotherhood Outcast Shack
Specifics: On a table, near a Work Bench, close to SatCom Array NN-03d

7. #1 Railway Rifle

Zone: 2.09
Lat/Lon: 02/17
Location: MDPL-13 Power Station
Specifics: Inside, on Work Bench

8. #2 Dart Gun

Zone: 3.10
Lat/Lon: 13/15
Location: Temple of the Union
Specifics: Miscellaneous Quest: Head of State. Possible reward (usually given
at 17.01 Lincoln Memorial)

9. #1 Bottlecap Mine

Zone: 4.08
Lat/Lon: -26/02
Location: Little Lamplight
Specifics: Sold by Knick Knock

10. #3 Shichkebab

Zone: 5.05
Lat/Lon: -01/07
Location: Meresti Trainyard
Specifics: Miscellaneous Quest: Blood Ties. Possible reward

11. #2 Nuka Grenade

Zone: 7.05
Lat/Lon: -26/-11
Location: Girdershade
Specifics: Miscellaneous Quest: The Nuka-Cola Challenge. Possible reward

12. #2 Bottlecap Mine 

Zone: 7.07
Lat/Lon: -22/-12
Location: Jocko's Pop & Gas Stop
Specifics: On the Work Bench, inside the shack

13. #2 Deathclaw Gauntlet

Zone: 7.09
Lat/Lon: -27/-15
Location: F. Scott Key Trail & Campground
Specifics: In the caravan, in the picnic area

14. #3 Dart Gun

Zone: 7.14
Lat/Lon: -16/-17
Location: Tenpenny Tower
Specifics: Sold by Lydia Montenegro

15. #3 Bottlecap Mine

Zone: 7.14
Lat/Lon: -16/-17 
Location: Tenpenny Tower
Specifics: Freeform Quest: A Manhandled Manservant. Inside Dashwood's Safe

16. #2 Rock-It Launcher

Zone: 8.01
Lat/Lon: -04/-04
Location: Vault 101
Specifics: Miscellaneous Quest: Trouble on the Homefront. Behind your
mother's favorite Bible verse plaque [Average].

17. #3 Rock-It Launcher

Zone: 8.03
Lat/Lon: -01/-06
Location: Megaton
Specifics: Craterside Supplies, sold by Moira Brown

18. #4 Bottlecap Mine

Zone: 8.03
Lat/Lon: -01/-06
Location: Megaton
Specifics: Craterside Supplies, awarded by Moira Brown. Miscellaneous Quest:
The Wasteland Survival Guide

19. #3 Nuka Grenade

Zone: 8.06
Lat/Lon: -10/-17
Location: Cliffside Cavern
Specifics: Hidden inside the Yoo Guai Cave, follow the left wall, drop down,
and look for the rock surrounded by skeletons

20. #4 Rock-It Launcher

Zone: 9.15
Lat/Lon: 18/-17
Location: Rivet City
Specifics: In the bridge tower third-floor armory [Very Hard]

21. #3 Deathclaw Gauntlet

Zone: 9.15
Lat/Lon: 18/-17
Location: Rivet City
Specifics: Freeform Quest: Council Seat. Possible reward (from Bannon)

22. #2 Railway Rifle

Zone: 9.15
Lat/Lon: 18/-17
Location: Rivet City
Specifics: Miscellaneous Quest: Stealing Independance. Possible reward
(from Abraham Washington)

23. #3 Railway Rifle

Zone: 17.07
Lat/Lon: N/A
Location: Museum of History Entrance
Specifics: Underworld Outfitters, sold by Tulip

带注释的大地图

http://www.maplib.net/map.php?id ... 26611328125&z=7

以上英文内容均转自xbox360achievements

:内牛满面: :内牛满面: 这些东西真有用
我竟然错过2个bubble head..


操版你之前说的那个帮GNR修天线的任务是不是3 dogs让你去科技馆拿东西的那个？。。。

[ 本帖最后由 Jonsoncao 于 2008-11-5 09:19 编辑 ]

是，修好了之后你在整个wasteland都可以听three dog的“啊呜”了

:企鹅捶地: :企鹅捶地:
已经到科技馆了。。看来还是先去Revet City好了。。

去科技馆回收了登月天线再去Rivet City也来得及

不用VATS，把辐射3当FPS玩也活该子弹不够用了……

问个配点的问题

我现在11级了，speech, science, lockpick很早就都加到了60以上，后来发现战斗比较辛苦，开始加small gun
现在speech 85, sci,loc都是65，small gun好像也是60，explosive 45，接下来的点数分配，加哪个方面比较好一点

别加speech了，加energy weapon和sneak，big gun用size matters那个perk加
后面可以拿到的plasma rifle很屌……我现在基本都是一枪直接爆头

我修理和医药也加了不少……

Sneak和EN Weapon都没怎么加。

到了后面stimpack多的用不完，加上你经济不成问题医生那里都是20个stimpack这样卖，所以medicine到60就够了，够解开所有medicine有关的perk，比较有用的是chem resistant和cyborg

玩了主线的tranquility lane和waters for life……剧本很震撼，也很残酷……主线还没有玩到这里的话，要做好心理准备……

所有技能都只用加到85-90就OK..有装备和娃娃补充最后的10来点..属性点也只用加到8或9....我现在14级..开锁 SMGUN SNEAK 都100 能量枪80.属性除了魅力以外都8+.感知已经10了...现在除了死爪能对我造成威胁外感觉基本已经无敌了...不过是在SNEAK状态..直接火拼的话还是很危险

话说我是不是该主线了=.=地图开了1/3了..主线还在MEGATON叫我问那个问关于父亲的事=.=

PS:死爪巢穴里有好东西:兔子冷笑:

我18级了感觉都没有楼上牛逼啊，只有perception和int是10 :内牛满面:

end是5，str是6，luck是7 :内牛满面:

bubblehead也才找了两个，为了一次性解成就，连放bubblehead的地方都没有……:内牛满面:

revet city怎么走:内牛满面:
从科技馆那边怎么过去？陆上还是地铁？

从DC市中心可以从地铁走到rivet city

不过我还是建议从火蚂蚁那个小镇一直往南走，走到地图最南边之后再往东，过河过了杰佛逊纪念馆就看到了，走地铁太容易迷路了……

rivet city最容易的走法是沿着河走，没有任何障碍，路上还会经过jefferson memorial，很方便

tranquility lane和waters for life我在gaf还是什么地方的，不小心被透了:内牛满面:

为什么这么猛- -

继续...现在16级半...拿到了几把特殊武器..比如52攻的林肯猎枪,拿到这个普通猎枪可以下课了.....61攻的SMG.用的10MM子弹..多到用不完...攻击还很高.... 还有把攻击不是很出众但名字是特殊名字的狙击...加上某任务奖励的52攻的雷射....特殊武器的修理也是很简单的...用同种类的枪来修就OK了..现在感觉修理的重要了..技能全加修理了..目前72..外面的武器.拿到相同的就修理..然后把高耐久的拿回去卖...现在钱多到用不完...MINGUN一堆一堆的..拿满就修成一把..不占重量又能来钱....

期待特殊名字的冲锋枪..现在还在用中国产的那把..虽然被我修到攻击47了..不过还是不爽.....

主线依然荒废中..目前进度到去博物馆拿天线:企鹅抽筋蹬腿:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ-fI_xJB88

个人最喜欢Galaxy News Radio的一首歌
Civilization recorded with the Andrew Sisters and Danny Kaye. Records in 1948
:兔爷赏个吻: :兔爷赏个吻: :兔爷赏个吻: :兔爷赏个吻: :兔爷赏个吻: :兔爷赏个吻: :兔爷赏个吻:

two dog is too low, here is three dog~~~~~~~~ :D

gaf上看到的现在阶段制作最好的两张地图了
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另外通过youtube的related video发现了更多GNR的歌曲，youtube万岁 :内牛满面:

The Ink Spots - Maybe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1j1_baQwH8

The Ink Spots - I Don't Want To Set The World On Fire（开场的歌曲）
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j15Uee_mL3A

Bob Crosby - Way Back Home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp-uP6sT_Dg

Bob Crosby - Dear hearts and gentle people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t314wo05ElI

Roy Brown - Butcher Pete
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ivDW_BU94

:内牛满面: :内牛满面: :内牛满面: :内牛满面: :内牛满面:
感觉比BioShock的湿啊

我主线结束了，剧本很紧凑

但是最后bethesda有点脑残，必须要牺牲一个人进入辐射地带启动purifier,但是只能是主人公/Lyons，我特意带了个无视辐射super mutant同伴，让他去开，他却说这不是他的命运，而是你的，233
那个大机器人嘴里唠唠叨叨说的话.........，美帝亡我之心不死啊

butcher pete....讲一个家伙喜欢切女人的肉，居然不是bethesda自己编的，真的有这歌:企鹅捶地: :企鹅捶地: :企鹅捶地:

61攻的SMG怎么拿到的。。

如果听腻了GNR的爵士乐，还有小提琴曲。
雷区往东南方向走有个独居的老太太Agatha（她家门口有条地沟，要从桥上过去），给你一个支线任务Agatha's song，要你去92避难所拿一把斯特拉第瓦里（Stradivari）小提琴，避难所里有一些河蟹人，在一个像排练室一样有很多谱架的屋子里找到提琴，交给老太太完成任务出门，就能在电台里找到老太太的频道，她会给大家演奏《流浪者》等著名的小提琴曲。
http://www.bn13.com/bbs/attachment/Mon_0811/13_93043_e62ca0da804ebac.jpg

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_weapons

要先做偷独立宣言那个任务……然后会遇到一个先行去偷独立宣言但是没偷着的女人叫Sydney

另外回轮舞曲同学，chinese assault rifle有特殊的，就是那个xuanlong assault rifle，哈嗲……在科技博物馆里面搞定了Jigg's loot去收Prime的尸行了

那女的我跟他把任务完成了。。她没给我枪。

科技馆里的啥loot？……我打完了那里怎么没有。

独立宣言的任务怎么触发？

[posted by wap]
Revet City里一个收藏家npc