You can't compare the graphics of Forza 3 to the others game racing. The 60 fps is a out of contest system. It's like to compare Call of duty 6 to the others. You can't. But moreover if the 60 fps is very stable, you have one of the most impressive graphics of the salon. I play Dirt 2 actally in order to wait better for the october 23th, in my opinion, it's one of the best graphic ever made but it's at 30 fps. You have a lot more details in Dirt 2 than Forza 3, but when you will try for the first time the cockpit view at 60 fps, you understand. It's so smooth, so closer to the real thing. If we can't have nowadays the details and the 60 fps, i choose the last one.