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#101
sum31
2008-3-14 13:35
starcraft/warcraft是故事设定为游戏服务,但dow是游戏借用故事设定,各自的起点就不同
blz在做游戏的时候更多考虑的是怎么让游戏吸引不同层次的更多人,即受众要尽可能广。
但dow不同,它更注重的是怎样忠实还原warhammer40k的世界观,它的受众首先主要是40k的爱好者
所以这两个游戏面向的群体本身就有差别,这并不能证明哪个游戏更高,标准不同
看一下两个游戏的论坛就知道,sc/war3的论坛绝大多数的帖子是讨论游戏中的战术,而dow论坛里大多数帖子还是关于40k的文化
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#102
lainr
2008-3-14 13:37
原帖由
BD
于 2008-3-14 13:06 发表
战这些很没意思,War3和DOW平衡性差异是铁一般的实施。
种族胜率只是一个表象而已,War3也有过平衡性的版本,但是消亡的速度远远大于DOW修正的速度,这点你承认吧。
我记不得SS的种子数了,反正我挂了2-3个晚上 ...
YY之前至少给些让人信服的数据好伐?
War3也有过平衡性的版本,但是消亡的速度远远大于DOW修正的速度? 先不提这句是不是有语病反正我看不太懂, 你好歹给点数据证明下啊? 我可是翻了下 上届WAR3 WCG 前几名的种族人数才说的
机子烂RP差也能证明下SS 的人数少了? :企鹅捶地:
DOW 对战人群少, 跟同档次的比差了去了? 您的同档次是不是就是 WAR3 和SC 呀... 或者说就是跟BN这个暴雪的招牌比啊? RELIC官网平均在线1000+人, 有兴趣的话你可以找找同档次的比...
这里没人跟你争什么一流二流, 您是暴雪饭没问题吃你的饭去, 拜托不要靠贬低其他RTS 来凸现自己的下限好伐?
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#103
BD
2008-3-14 13:40
原帖由
lastmay
于 2008-3-14 13:33 发表
Relic的态度没问题,你对你的blz神的过渡敬仰才是你的问题:肥雀寒:
如果没有问题COH这种借用Warhammer4K核心Gameplay,穿上2战马甲之后的作品怎可能轻易超越Warhammer4K?
Warhammer4K庞大的世界观Relic体现了多少?
SS我虽然还没下完,但是希望战役回归剧情推动的传统,千万别想DC搞什么领土争夺。
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#104
BD
2008-3-14 13:43
原帖由
lainr
于 2008-3-14 13:37 发表
YY之前至少给些让人信服的数据好伐?
War3也有过平衡性的版本,但是消亡的速度远远大于DOW修正的速度? 先不提这句是不是有语病反正我看不太懂, 你好歹给点数据证明下啊? 我可是翻了下 上届WAR3 WCG 前几名的种 ...
这么明显的事实还用我去找所谓的证据?
Warhammer4K官网在线1000+,感情你是根本没进过Battle.Net吧。War3 4个区每个都是上万的同时在线好哇。
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#105
lastmay
2008-3-14 13:54
原帖由
BD
于 2008-3-14 13:40 发表
如果没有问题COH这种借用Warhammer4K核心Gameplay,穿上2战马甲之后的作品怎可能轻易超越Warhammer4K?
Warhammer4K庞大的世界观Relic体现了多少?
不断推出资料片增加新种族不正是在向体现Warhammer4K庞大的世界观的努力么?
轻易超越Warhammer4K?你说的好轻易丫,那我们来听你说说如何个轻易超越的吧?
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本帖最后由 lastmay 于 2008-3-14 13:57 编辑
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#106
lainr
2008-3-14 13:55
原帖由
BD
于 2008-3-14 13:43 发表
这么明显的事实还用我去找所谓的证据?
Warhammer4K官网在线1000+,感情你是根本没进过Battle.Net吧。War3 4个区每个都是上万的同时在线好哇。
果然您所谓的" 同档次RTS " 就只有WAR3 和SC 啊...:企鹅捶地:
我BN ID templard , 有机会可以战战:D
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#107
BD
2008-3-14 13:57
不战了,没意思。
赎罪帖一些战锤模型图
http://www.pcgames.com.cn/pcgames/gallery/0507/pic/pcgamessephir0728zc4000mx01.jpg
http://www.pcgames.com.cn/pcgames/gallery/0507/pic/pcgamessephir0728zc4000mx02.gif
http://www.pcgames.com.cn/pcgames/gallery/0507/pic/pcgamessephir0728zc4000mx03.gif
http://www.pcgames.com.cn/pcgames/gallery/0507/pic/pcgamessephir0728zc4000mx04.jpg
http://www.pcgames.com.cn/pcgames/gallery/0507/pic/pcgamessephir0728zc4000mx05.jpg
http://www.pcgames.com.cn/pcgames/gallery/0507/pic/pcgamessephir0728zc4000mx06.jpg
http://www.pcgames.com.cn/pcgames/gallery/0507/pic/pcgamessephir0728zc4000mx07.jpg
http://www.pcgames.com.cn/pcgames/gallery/0507/pic/pcgamessephir0728zc4000mx10.jpg
http://www.pcgames.com.cn/pcgames/gallery/0507/pic/pcgamessephir0728zc4000mx11.jpg
http://www.pcgames.com.cn/pcgames/gallery/0507/pic/pcgamessephir0728zc4000mx12.jpg
http://www.pcgames.com.cn/pcgames/gallery/0507/pic/pcgamessephir0728zc4000mx14.jpg
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/newimage.asp?Size=A&Img=259214
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#108
lastmay
2008-3-14 14:04
原帖由
BD
于 2008-3-14 13:57 发表
不战了,没意思。
同意停战~~继续虐猫
warhammer40000 Tyranid Hierophant
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/Hierophant/hpp1.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/Hierophant/hpp2.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/Hierophant/hpp3.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/Hierophant/hpp6.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/Hierophant/hpp4.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/Hierophant/hpp7.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant5.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant15.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant8.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant1.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant10.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant2.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant6.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant9.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant5.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant15.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant4.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant13.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hphant17.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tyranids/hpanttitan.jpg
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本帖最后由 lastmay 于 2008-3-14 14:28 编辑
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#109
sum31
2008-3-14 14:10
个人还是最喜欢40k的设定啊,中古战锤和其他神棍奇幻没啥大区别,但40k就是骨子里透出一种铁血和纳粹的感觉
正因为这种风格所以注定了dow比SC的受众小,不过现在的异端审判厅设定已经朝主流方向挺进了,SS里的修女比以前那些战团大老爷们美形多了……
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#110
lastmay
2008-3-14 14:12
warhammer40000
Tau Manta
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/mantap1.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/mantap3.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/mantap7.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/mantap6.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/mantap5.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/mantap4.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/mantap2.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta1.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta24.jpg
Networked Markerlight turret
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta20.jpg
Tank bay door open
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta22.jpg
Tank bay deployed and upper deck door open
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta7.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta13.jpg
Upper deck Door open and ramp deployed
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta23.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta25.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta26.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta2.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta4.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta9.jpg
Upper Deck and lift to tank bay
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta18.jpg
Ethereal and access ladder to command and control
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta28.jpg
Upper deck, command and control and pilots
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta15.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta16.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/DSCF0014.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta14.jpg
[color=#ffffff]
Size comparison of the Manta to the Thunderhawk Gunship, Rhino and Tau Piranha.
[/color]
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Manta/complete/manta21.jpg
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#111
lastmay
2008-3-14 14:20
Warhammer40,000 Wolf Class Warhound Titan
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhound%20pictures/Paintwarhound1g.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhound%20pictures/Paintwarhound3g.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhound%20pictures/Paintwarhound4g.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhound%20pictures/moderatig.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhound%20pictures/titanwg2.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhound%20pictures/titanwg5.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhound%20pictures/titanwg3.jpg
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#112
lastmay
2008-3-14 14:23
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/images/IW_spengler_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/images/IH_mackenzie_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/images/LW_spengler_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/images/SM_brooks_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/images/SW_smith_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/images/TS_hall_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/images/TS_donaldson_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/images/UM_barnes_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp148v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp163v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp120v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/images/WE_flume_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/images/WE_mccardell_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/chaosspacemarines/gaming/armylists/images/apostle.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/daemonhunters/gettingstarted/images/paintknight/5b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/darkeldar/gettingstarted/images/5b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/imperialguard/painting/ogryns/images/squad.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/orks/gettingstarted/images/5b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/witchhunters/gettingstarted/images/5b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/tyranids/carnifex/images/carnifex-variant-1.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/tyranids/carnifex/images/history-screamer-killer.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/tyranids/carnifex/images/history-old-carnifex.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/witchhunters/extras/preview/images/witchhunter_b.gif
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp119v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp143v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp160v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp142v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp150v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp145v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp133v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp129v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp125v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp147v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp109v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp111v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp139v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp108v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp112v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp124v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp153v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp165v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp104v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp116v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp128v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp131v_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/bt/bt_big/dcp151h_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/bt/bt_big/dcp137h_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/bt/bt_big/dcp153h_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/bt/bt_big/dcp138h_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp139h_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp130h_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp140h_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp113h_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp107h_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp127h_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp136h_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/events/gw-store-events/dark_crusade/images/large/dcp155h_b.jpg
http://gt.us.games-workshop.com/Results_Coverage/Baltimore/40k/Defiler/images/Matt_Birdoff_Defiler_b.jpg
http://gt.us.games-workshop.com/Results_Coverage/Baltimore/40k/Defiler/images/Jim_Keleher_b.jpg
http://gt.us.games-workshop.com/Results_Coverage/Baltimore/40k/Defiler/images/John_Swann_Defiler_b.jpg
http://gt.us.games-workshop.com/Results_Coverage/Baltimore/40k/Defiler/images/JeffCauley_b.jpg
http://gt.us.games-workshop.com/Results_Coverage/Baltimore/40k/Defiler/images/Micheal_Pendleton_b.jpg
http://gt.us.games-workshop.com/Results_Coverage/Baltimore/40k/Defiler/images/GWdefiler_b.jpg
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/eyeofterror/catalog/images/defiler.gif
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#113
lastmay
2008-3-14 14:29
Warhammer40,000 Renegade Ogryn Beserkers
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/ogsquad1.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/boss4.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/boss3.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/og11.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/og1.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/og2.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/og3.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/og4.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/og17.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/og6.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/og5.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/og16.jpg
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#114
fengxveye
2008-3-14 15:26
宏大的世界观在欧美是一种很民工的东西,欧美每年出版的奇幻小说以百为单位,各个的来头都非常的巨大。。。
起点里甚多中学生作者更是喜欢动不动上亿年的历史,千万的位面。。。很无聊很无聊。。。
所以说欧美所有的奇幻小说(包括魔戒)全部加起来也远远比不上莎士比亚的37部戏剧剧本。。。
莎士比亚写的就是这么一些“小人物”“小事情”,殉情的男女啊,王子复仇啊。。。但却被认为是欧美文学艺术的巅峰。。。
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#115
刮大白
2008-3-14 15:44
原帖由
BD
于 2008-3-14 13:28 发表
Relic的态度本来就有问题,否则以Relic在Warhammer4K和COH设定上的创新,早就可以划分很大的市场份额了。
质量显然SC和War3最好,这是不争的事实。
扯,还不争的事实,就一个贴子里就争成这样了:企鹅捶地: :企鹅捶地: :企鹅捶地: :企鹅捶地:
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