有人推荐个头，谁不知道楼主是无机小白？推荐一个和传统实况没什么联系的游戏需要把别的机种拿出来比较么？
如果他在推荐，那我也在推荐啊，与其玩wii版，不如玩有更多同好的游戏，还能对战，技术不精也可以看看比较养眼的画面，除非wii版不要钱

是啊，有几个人在装机量最大的主机上买了，这个道理很简单的

你回帖不看贴的么？抬头看看这贴是发来干嘛的。

原来这7页都在和lz战斗，很多人误会了吧

说开了这不就好了么，还较什么劲

现在又开始用销量来证明游戏的优秀??

你看不懂不要怪别人没说开

装机量最大的主机上的全平台游戏，据说是“优秀的版本”（对于这两作的高清版，一般没人会用这个词），销量低，我不知如何解释

你这样把3个版本比销量~~跟LZ比评分有啥区别??

就是因为看懂了才觉得跟空气互博是很较劲的

有区别啊，楼主认为wii版比其他版本好，我觉得都很烂，当然如果一定要分个高下，那么wii版正如konami给它的定位一样，垫底

那你继续看懂或者没看懂，谁在乎你

原来一直你都是跟LZ在战~~果然如阿西BZ所说~~我在跟空气较劲~~

本来就是，认为pes近几年能称为优秀的基本都是在和空气战的，和人对战的早骂娘了

明白就好了，随他去吧

"和人对战的早骂娘了"又是你YY的吗??

阿西达卡不玩WE的吧
这么急于为健身版WE辩护是出于护主心切吧，也不是不能理解。

不是啊，欢迎你进入二十一世纪，欢迎你来看看实况玩家对pes08对战的评价

原来又是在说其他版本的PES~~我一直在说WII版的PES~~果然跟空气较劲~~

...
真是基情无限...

fc pm了，有时间对战玩吧

阿西和chenzi建议你们别理睬他吧, 纯粹找抽.....一直讽刺人无机小白, 贼喊抓贼....

FIFA09确实很优秀, 不过这和我们讨论PES09 Wii版有什么关系?不可否认的是PES和FIFA之间的差距现在确实有显著的距离....

况且.如果Wii的PES系列亏钱, Konami还会花时间去研制Wii版的PES09吗?PES 09Wii的网上对战也好了不少
至少国外玩家也连得到, 有时lag有时不而已, 而且这代不需另加Wii code也是该称赞, 和Wii Music, Blast Work一样, 可以直接加主机的friend list了, Konami确实厚道很多.

你要能找到wii版的也行啊，防守弱成这样了，让我开开眼界，看看对战达人的视频好吗

觉得是在刻意辩护的自己去深入玩玩再说吧，阴阳怪气的没意思

另外, Wii的PES之所以优秀.....

是因为运用了Wii的特性来重新演示PES系列

" 这才是真正的次世代足球游戏", 这是众多媒体和玩家对PES08 Wii ver的称赞
Konami为我们带来全新操作进化的足球游戏, 为何偏要说到高清机的PES和FIFA去

其实这评分不过是喜感的IGN继续延续其喜感传统而已，大惊小怪的青们又在春日里挥洒了无数的荷尔蒙和肾上腺素。
真是教人激赏。


当年的超雷作波斯猴子3D也能给出8.2的分数，其勇气和喜感都如其评论一般impressive

不久前IGN US给FM 2009打出了2/10的分数，“我真搞不懂为啥会有人玩这个游戏，他们不会去玩WE和FIFA吗？”，如此评论道。
事后FM青集体暴走才让IGN撤下了这欢乐度满点的评论。

都是黑历史了，就不要过分纠结了。

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说到波斯王子, 新的很赞, 不过却失去旧作九死一生的特色
不过还是很不错就对了

gs的pes08给了8
09的评分应该很快了
希望别像ign一样没玩就写review

jump贴的那个是2000年左右出的3D打雷波斯王子:绿脸贱笑:兔摆手:

那个不是去年的猴子，是游戏史上最雷作之一的波斯王子3d

要我说的话，WE2009各个媒体的评分偏低可以理解为对本系列进入次世代后原地踏步的怨念。
wii版的WE2009在评分上倒是占了“异质”的便宜。画面烂就烂吧，对战弱就弱吧，反正WE正统续作也不咋好玩，拿个双截棍点来点去倒算是有了点新的玩法。越是自我标榜“客观”的评论人员越容易因为这些“游戏性”上的“创新”而给高分。
不过wii版的评分再高，真正玩WE的玩家也是不会去碰的。

我碰了，而且觉得挺好玩的，比次世代的WE强，我是不是就不算真正玩WE的玩家？:内牛满面:

找到原文了，ign太神了，这篇文章应该供在游戏评论史的最高峰来膜拜:253: :253: :253:

This game gets a red card, and possibly a lifetime ban.
ign

By: Avi Burk

What sports fan doesn't want to take control of his favorite team and guide it to a championship, or, better yet, a long string of championships? Well, if it means playing Worldwide Soccer Manager, you can count me in that number.

Worldwide Soccer Manager 2009 gives gamers the chance to manage and coach 5,000 soccer teams from 50 countries around the globe, giving them the chance to manage every aspect of their team's roster, field questions from reporters at their team's press conferences, and coach their teams in real time as each simulated game unfolds. What it doesn't do, more importantly, is provide any compelling reason to keep "playing."

Although the game's database of more than 350,000 real-life soccer players is certainly impressive, only the most diehard fans of the sport would be able to appreciate having such a massive pool of talent to sift through, and the casual fan would almost certainly find the task overwhelming – I did.

The game's incredibly complex menu system is very difficult to navigate, even with the on-screen help box directing you through the process. In short, this game is extremely difficult to simply pick up and play. If you're unfamiliar with the franchise expect to spend a significant amount of time simply trying to figure out how to navigate the menus.

Worldwide Soccer Manager's presentation problems don't end there though, once you finally make it to your team's first game you'll find that the player renderings and animations are awful, and the stadiums you play in lack any kind of personality or detail. Each field is bordered by fences and what appear to be unfinished stands, which don't have any fans in them. And, when the ball is kicked off of the pitch, it passes smoothly through the surrounding fences, right through the stands, and disappears from view only to return to the field in the same fashion, appearing magically from the stands and passing through the fences (and goals) on its way back into play.

Then there's the sound, or lack thereof. There is no soundtrack that plays while you work in the game's menus, which you'll spend the vast majority of your time in this game doing. There is no audio narration to accompany your participation in press conferences, even though your options for how to respond to each question is incredibly limited. There is no audio commentary to accompany the action in the simulated game's you watch/coach. In fact, the only sound we found in the entire game was the tones of fans cheering as each simulated game played out – which only detracts from the game's feel of authenticity seeing as there are no fans rendered in the stands.

As far as traditional gameplay goes, there really isn't any in Worldwide Soccer Manager 2009. Apart from managing your roster and coaching your team, there really isn't anything to do at all. So, unless you really enjoy clicking on menu buttons, you'll find your interaction with this game extremely disappointing.

However, if you're a big footie fan and big fan of sports simulation, you'll be extremely impressed with the depth of Worldwide Soccer Manager, which allows you to control just about every facet of your team and draw from a player pool that is simply mindboggling.

Closing Comments
This game obviously aims to provide the deepest soccer simulation experience possible for the sport’s most passionate and informed fans, but it offers little to nothing that would appeal to a casual fan of the sport or to the average videogame enthusiast. The menus are complex and difficult to navigate, graphics are terrible, the sound is non-existent and there is no traditional gameplay to speak of. I couldn’t imagine why anybody would prefer Worldwide Soccer Manager to FIFA 09 or Pro Evolution Soccer 2009.

©2008-12-05, IGN Entertainment, Inc. All Rights Reserved

神了啊，真是神了啊

虽然观点和我的观点一样，但是结论可完全是两样——我只是觉得，以我的智商和对世界足球的了解程度，还不足以让我能玩得开心:内牛满面: 能看到评论家对自己的智商这么有信心，真是让我内牛满面。。

说起来，wii这版的实况，扑点球的时候是不是模仿守门员两手摆动那样扑的？

当然知道, 操作感超渣的

只是说到POP, 突然有点想重玩GC的那两作

你就可以这样确定?
我本身也是玩开WE系列的, 不过三大主机上我选择等待Wii版的PES09
高清的就入手了FIFA09, PES09玩了DEMO, 选择放弃

PES08 Wii世界销量也有20w左右, 莫非20w都是买回家摆的吗==

09我没玩，08的对战性和操作感弱成这样还有真饭会喜欢我还真会诧异的

全球媒体将WII版捧成真正的足球游戏的事实结结实实的打了传统操作饭的耳光，让他们无地自容，于是这些人恼羞成怒，只能靠诋毁来自我安慰，但是无论如何诋毁，事实终归是无法改变的。:肥雀得意:

激进吗？哈哈！我承认我激进。我思想一向激进。

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你一向基精倒是没错的，这世界上真正的男人那么多，是不是在抽你的耳光啊

恐怕我把楼主当作是激进也算是抬举了。。你不玩足球游戏，自然不知道足球游戏的精髓

我觉得你可以回头看看我另外一个回复，想想为什么EA连PC版都只是出个渣化的（现在的PC四核还不是主流哦-v-）

美国人不玩足球的

:企鹅抽筋蹬腿: :企鹅抽筋蹬腿:

全球媒体将WII版捧成真正的足球游戏的事实结结实实的打了传统操作饭的耳光，让他们无地自容，于是这些人恼羞成怒，只能靠诋毁来自我安慰，但是无论如何诋毁，事实终归是无法改变的

-----估计真实的情况会是传统操作饭狠狠的抽了这些媒体和所谓的革新饭的耳光，从销量上就可明显看出。

遗老遗少实况:企鹅捶地:
亏任青发明这么个名词

任青树敌的本事不小啊

谁说20W。。日本就累计7W。。全球累计50W左右。。还是晚了大半年得情况下。。不用讨论K社一直都很黑任的。。。

晕，看不懂